January 25, 2002
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James is Gone.
Well, what did ya expect? He was the Grand Diss-er, after all, who finally dis-missed himself. There once was a majestic personage in Xanga named Jewels who in her time was more popular than anyone in Xanga today, including VeryModern. She was a very compassionate, loving, yet physically debilitated and hurting woman who revealed in her blogs a splendid panoply of conflicting yet real emotions for the Xanga community to share in, respond to, and learn from. By the late winter of last year, she had displaced James as the most popular entity in Xanga (top-propped) and it seems that just leading up to his dethroning and shortly thereafter, a Great Flame War started with James taking the offensive and eventually battering Jewels into non-blogging retiring submission. She returned once shortly after that, but only briefly. Here’s what James had to say about her *resurrection* then:
Others have gone with a last post message only to rise again in three days like Lazarus from the tomb. With a startling 76 eProps and 37 comments for the swan song. Xanga's all time box office draw for one blog.
Well, then James, I take it you're no Lazarus and that we shouldn’t expect you back for a swan song, right?
What was James’ issue with Jewels?? He considered her an "emotional black hole" and lambasted her both on his blog and as comments on hers accordingly:
Seems we've got two camps. The victims and the legion of helpers who rush to their aid. One can't exist without the other. The emotional black holes suck and the helpers get off on feeling like they're good people because they fed the emotional black holes. There's the marriage from hell! Both get what they want and nothing ever changes.
Actually, the *two camps*--if any--were James with his I-only-want-positve-useful-people-and-not-emotional-black-hole/puddle/sea-of-oatmeal-people attitude and Jewels and her purported *legion of helpers*. Jewels relinquished Xanga and left James imperial as the most popular blogger for many, many moons.
With the *competition* going…going…gone…we sometimes saw a kinder, gentler James:
And what will I do with all this altitude? Shit, I don't know. I'll keep visiting sites and talking to interesting people and try to give more than I receive, as if that were possible.
Yes, it's true! You have been good to me. You have put up with my pouting and ranting and raving. You have been faithful and kind. You have shown me one person can make a difference. You have inspired me to write and bare my soul. We have laughed and whined together.
The way I see it we're all in this together. Thanks for being such fine people. Thanks for returning what I feel for you.
Now this, I feel, would have been a great parting self-epitaph for James. It would have left us all feeling good about our interaction with him. Years hence, when we would have reflected nostalgically back upon the the early Xanga trailblazers, we would have sighed: *...yes, James, he was mysteriously sweet and amazing.* But James always hated and would have hated such syrupy sentiment. That’s why instead he left us with this:
I'm thinking about quitting. This is one of my only remaining links with obtuse people and it's getting to be a drain. It appears there has been a shift somewhere and my desire to interact is waning.
I seem to be out of sync with the people of xanga these days. It's not that I mind people misunderstanding what I write here. It seems to be spreading to the comments I leave on their sites. People misunderstand for a number of valid reasons. It's becoming a bit pointless for me though. I don't seem to have the desire to wade through the sea of oatmeal to get to the possible clarity on the other side.
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who know and those who don't. I've not been enjoying reading the blogs of others for a while now. At first I thought it would pass, but it isn't going away. I'm thinking perhaps this experiment is completed.
Completed experiments are usually discarded. Here something failed. Was it the experiment or the experimenter?
By the way, since I’m digging up Xanga history, according to my memory (if I’m wrong O Xangarelics, help me out!), the earliest pretender to the eProp Popularity Throne was poptardis with Bluemoo, celeste, and agrochick78 all close upon the threshold (not that they had any desire to be popular—they just were! Am I leaving anyone out?). The first avatar to truly and distinguishably attain the throne (early Jan 2001) was holly_green who apparently intentionally decreased her blogging thereby allowing James to ascend thereto for a short time. But James would soon fall into the shadow of Jewels (Feb 2001), the first, foremost angelically-themed blogger (angel ornaments galore) to Xanga. That’s about when the Great Flame War commenced and Jewels, both on account of the flames and her growing ill-health, left. James reigned until an unlikely black knight-type renegade called notforprophet (early summer 2001) simply outperformed him (eProp-wise). (Damn those prophets—they’re always a thorn in one’s side.) But the prophet knew his days were numbered with his very first glimpse of the very prop-hungry, very beautiful, and very talented VeryModern. Yet he wasn’t saddened. In fact, he gave VeryModern (summer 2001) the very two props to push her over the top! And, if you haven’t checked lately, VeryModern is in a league of her own with over 30,000 such props. ha ha ha.
Who’s up and coming? Among others, fairestc, quite naturally, getting rewarded for the excellence of her incessant energy!
Quite interestingly, of all those who were once *most popular*, I’m the only one remaining that’s blogging regularly nonetheless. Perhaps, because I really never cared too much a-dang about it. Perhaps because I reflect upon how Ramses the Great, with his once ancient world-renowned popularity, is now only remembered anymore when slipping a condom on. And Do I really want to be like Mike?
For me, popularity was always as strange as wearing a tie—which I suppose they’ll next hang around my neck when I die.
Now don’t nobdody get no ideas like two birds with one stone and strangling me with a tie neither.
Comments (164)
I've been having soooo much fun ... ... ... don't be mad ... ... and don't worry about the tie ... we'll cremate you .... not mate .... cremate
eheh..im the first to say goodbye and dont let the fucking door hit you on the way out mr james...
cremate him..NO-don't waste a perfectly good tie
I have not been around Xanga to be involved in this popularity contest or to understand it. I blog because I want to do it for ME
Yes, I'll admit, I love
getting eprops, but I don't write for them. If I wanted to write to be "paid", then I'd go to Hollywood and write a movie. I never was the most "popular" girl anyway.
Hmmmmmm....I had my own small run-in with James when I was a new and rather unsure-of-myself blogger. It was small but enough to inspire me to close my old blog and start a new one under my current name (which I like better anyway).
I thought I was the only one on Xanga who didn't fall down and worship at his feet. Heh.
I don't know much about James and the other bloggers herein mentioned. But I do know a thing about the different cultures/factions/pretensions that swell here in blog-land. I've moved between Xanga and Blogger a time or two. Finding Xanga a much more community oriented and less pretentious space than Blogger. Although the big B has its advantages too and I've not completely given up on it -- I've often encountered people there with attitudes much like you've described in James. The blogs they read aren't up to their standards because the content isn't exactly like theirs -- or they think these places shouldn't be used for documenting the everyday movement of our lives -- and the possibilities for dissatisfaction could go on and on.
I've realized that no matter how often or what I post here or there -- public or private -- it isn't for me to say or qualify how anyone else uses the space. And the simple fact that our blogs are so different and that we can still interact and learn from one another in some way is still gratifying -- whether or not people get or don't get what I've posted about or commented on.
If I thought of the content on my blog as merely entertainment or a way to impress other xanga members (as it seems people with James' attitude would like us to do), then that doesn't leave much self-gratification for the act?
Sorry for the long comment -- glad you got me thinking.
...sorry things worked out as they did for James. Perhaps it was all the eprop wars that burned him out. It seems he left in the same manner of his posts, patronizing. I hope he finds like-minds wherever he has gone.
30,000??? Woah!
just another couple of props ... ... ...
Oh...notforprophet! I'm so afraid that someone is going to hijack me too! Given God's fate, why do you now expose me, too, to the vagaries of demented mortals?
Dear Goddess,
I realize that it is highly likely, if not inevitable, that you will be stolen, too. But it is the risk that gods and goddesses must take on the path to greatness.
If stolen, just curse and smote the low life that defiles you. And be assured that I will rally the Xangods to assist me with your retrieval!
wow...
Malou
Interesting history...
Do e-props and comments equal popularity? If that is so, James and the others were no where close... Seanmeister got 105 comments with his java blogs... there are others on the Hawaiin circuit with 300+ e-props, although it might take those posts a few days to get them... Personally, I feel loved if I get one comment under my posts... am no e-prop whore... but, hell yes, it feels good. But, no, I disagree that comments and props make a person popular... ~ stops frowning ~
Bravo! That was a sweet read. Thanks.
LOL! I think I'm standing right behind agrochick...
James was prolly my least-liked personage here in Xanga...His need to attack others simply made me ill..and the fact that he got huge amounts of kudos for being a complete and total ass only added to the disease...
But...Even the mighty must fall...rather like Nero, I picture him playing sloppily to his dying citizens...
And thanks for the memory..So many good bloggers have come and gone and many have stayed...Like me, in other monikers in Xanga...
I'm still an ole-timer posting on my time-worn blog...But not as much as I would like...
sharing the same amount of dust on my page - you're surely right, although i don't remember what i've done yesterday.....
well, as you've said, maybe this experiment (= James) is completed, maybe it's been a failure - the only thing that is really important is if everyone that joined this place for her/his personal experiment has earned something........
oh nfp If I am stolen away I will still always remember you fondly
here is my take on this nonsence: dont participate. just say no. no-no-no! thats it. carry on.
Black holes.
Yes, I believe She wasn't the only one that he was aiming that comment at. It really pissed me off.
That's the day I unsubscribed and stayed away from his site.
i never read his site, too negative and condescending. i never knew he put jewels down like that, and she was such a kind kind soul....what a jackass.
Popularity is perverse! E-freakin-props are Evil! The slash rules!
sail on... sail on!!!
Do people get cremated in their clothes? (in reply to mommarose) isn't that kinda a waste of clothes... But, people get buried in clothes, so I dunno.
I think it'd be neat if there was a minus eprop button, that way if someone was wayyy mean to someone, then we could all subtract all their eprops away... But, could backfire. Ah well- no worries.
JUst knew I could count on you to explain that disappearing act. It was rather strange.
I'm wondering....since I was the last person to take James on, will I be dubbed "The Xanga straw that broke the came's back"? LOL...probably not. Oh well!
Now I understand why he referred to his readers as "sick fucks".....because we truly were....to be reading all of his propaganda and rhetoric. Really sick!
"I love you", *smack*. "I love you", *smack*. "I love you", *smack*.
I wonder if anybody got it. He was trying to teach people that YOU are the one who allows abuse in your life. The battered wife syndrome can only be stopped by the wife, not the batterer. Not only did people love the abuse, they actually praised him for it.
Sick fucks, we were.
"camel"
camel dammit...that was supposed to say camel.
I remember respectfully disagreeing with something he said on his blog, and he said to me,"I won't apologize because I know something you don't."
Back in the day he was coined the "epitome of inclusion," for deciding to keep David in his circle of bloggers even though David was starting an all Christian blog ring that excluded non-Christians and people who cursed.
Then one day he went on the rampage with his black hole thing, criticising people, without even being clear about who he was talking about. And then when people like me would politely suggest that he might be off base, he would attack us.
I and Jewels, and others, were on the outs with James, there was a growing community of us, and yet he still had a lot of adoring fans. I began to see leaving James as a xanga graduation of sorts. Time to move on.
I haven't been there for a long time.
I'm sorry to see him go, even though I never go there. He's like a historical landmark to me.
For awhile when ever he would post his new subscribers I would go check them out. I was in a secret competition with him. When I finally exceeded him in subscribers I posted this Haiku
Criticism hurts
Though I surpassed my rival
Who but dished it out
Everyone of us, I suppose, gets on the digital rag now and then – what the hell; its all only sequences of ones and naughts.
I think I shall enjoy remaining clueless
I had read James' log a few times, but not very often, so I didn't know who he was. But NFP, didn't you forget to add yourself in that history lesson? Because after all you are one of the most popular people on here.
He insulted me once. And only once. I had the grace and the presence of mind to understand his psychological need to shove his truth and his opinion down the throat of anyone who would listen.
It ocurred to me, then ... no one was truly listening. And then ... I felt such pity for him.
Au revoir, Pee Wee ...
Looks up ... nods.
Au revoir Pee Wee ... ~foflmao~
"Quite interestingly, of all those who were once *most popular*, I’m the only one remaining that’s blogging regularly nonetheless. Perhaps, because I really never cared too much a-dang about it"
Mmm-hmm. Of course you don't care. You just paid close enough attention to be able to give various on-top dates for particular bloggers out of sheer altruism?
I'll never forget the day I passed James either..
That was my main goal since the moment I realized that a Norwegian born Norwegian simply can't be elected President of the USA anyway..
I find it interesting that so much attention to detail and history comes in the guise of disinterested competition. It reminds me of peasants dancing in celebration of the death of their king, never realizing that a tyrant is already rising to bring misery to their lives.
Steve
and some people who know one even knows have their own feelings about james.
Life is not about eProps and popularity, well unless you want it to be. Must feel grand to be the king of slam now NFP.
i love reading the sites of both the extremely popular (eg you, virg, daffodilious, prom) and the extremely unpopular bloggers. i get a lot from both types and all the ones in between...they all have their merits. i enjoyed this -- it was good, although i'd gleaned bits of the history before. I have visited James' site on occasion and never saw him as you portrayed him, but then i've only been there a few times. I enjoy the sense of community on xanga...but the sense of competition does bother me sometimes. Not because i'm a sore loser (i don't actively go out and write for popularity, but because i read so many blogs and am so interested in so many of the bloggers i get it...err...vicariously) but that sense of exclusivity...? I don't care whether people read me or prop me, but flame wars on other peoples' sites where they're being hurtful annoy the hell out of me. Seanmeister's jokes are funny as hell, and so are you and some of the others, but the others where they slam each other endlessly just to get an extra prop ... argh.
Sorry..didn't mean to go on and on either. lacklustre was right. this blog wasn't just interesting and insightful (in its own way =P) but it was thought-provocative as well.
I can't help but think that maybe some people took James a bit too seriously sometimes.
That's all I have to say about that.
i must have met the guy on a good day... way back when i was known as someone else... well, i still am, i just can't be bothered logging out and logging back in...
i don't understand half the comments... people preach diversity, and then condemn someone who makes up a part of that diversity... or am i just being foolish for thinking that diversity for these people mean something they don't like? shock horror... oh no... heaven forfend.
he had his edges... everyone does. i still miss him. he was a friend.
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Ive been on Xanga since April'01, and have participated in reading a lot of blogs. I met James back then, as well as Prom and you NFP. UberJeanie was another favourite of mine. Yeah, all of you have your edges, but I just dont see where you are right about James, or James is right about you. I found James to be a very funny, and tell-it-like-it-is kind of guy, but he never did it in ways that would destroy people. I never thought you were all that bad either NFP, unfortunately not until reading this hogwash here tonight. Im not saying that all of your work is bad--but it was like you were trying to make a fact of something about a situation when the person you had a problem with is no longer participating on Xanga. It's like my next door neighbour going away for a holiday, and I go around the neighbourhood telling people nasty things about him while my neighbour is away. Can my neighbour do anything about what I have said? No, he's away. The dammage is already done.
Sometimes I think life would be a lot better if we confronted the person we had a squabble with directly, and not brought the whole stinkin block in on the arguement!
I will still continue to read your stuff NFP, but I just wanted to let you know that I disagree with this particular attitude about a fellow blogger. That's all Im going to say.
Hogwash is a great word for this blog... For someone who doesn't care about popularity, you have placed yourself high on the Xanga throne.
"holly_green who apparently intentionally decreased her blogging thereby allowing James to ascend thereto for a short time..."
You wha...? Whoa!!
Sometimes I blog, sometimes I don't. There is absolutely no conspiracy behind my cycles.
*Wanders off to look for dead fish in order to whack nfp around his dizzy head*
Sigh, human beings are digusting.
Take that however you like.
Just propping by.......
Very interesting blog especially being fairly new to xanga myself. Sad that most of the high eprop people now are pure crap.
Thanks for the visit to xanga history... and the good news. I quit reading him sometime after the "black hole" comments because I was often tempted to -- and sometimes did --make pointed comments on his site. Something about that guy's blogs always got under my skin and I was better off just ignoring his presence on xanga.
Ah, what memories, what memories... LoL!! I quit James, too - we had our differences. I didn't like what he did to Jewels, either. Compound issues.
I'm amazed in your nostalgia you forgot Alice, the quality queen. There was a time in early Xangan history (about H_G's time) when Alice was raking in the attention, too. I'll never forget that... mainly because of how angry she got when they got rid of the top 100 list (in favor of featured content)...
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