June 26, 2002
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Is Xanga just a blogging kindergarten? Isn’t it even worth a passing mention, let alone serious discussion, by the bloggerati ( the blogging literati, i.e., the emerging clique of “high-powered” bloggers who are schmoozing and oozing with visions of the *blogosphere* ) ??
You and I may think so, but it appears that John Hiler, who qualifies as a member in good-standing of the bloggerati by merit of his position as the prolific writer/editor of Microcontent News (a webzine discussing weblogs) and CEO of WebCrimson, a weblog software consulting firm, has nary a word to say about Xanga in his webzine.
Oh yes, John states in Microcontent News webzine’s “About the Editor” section that he “helped build Xanga.com, one of the largest weblog community sites” . But that’s it. A footnote in a resume. Otherwise, in all of his moving and shaking discussions of the blogosphere (most of which are very insightful and inciteful—I’m an ardent reader of his) there’s not even a faint casting of Xanga as even a small star in a puny constellation in the twinkling blogosphere. Nada.
Now perhaps John doesn’t want to toot his own horn. But then again, I’m getting the feeling that Xanga, for its co-founders like John and Genius et. al., has served mainly as their learning sandbox, aka kindergarten. And that now, as they’re moving on into the more exalted undertakings worthy of the bloggerrati (Genius, aka Biz Stone is writing a book called "Blogging" available in September from Amazon.com), they’re no more mentioning Xanga as a concern than one would brag about the grade school one went to when applying for high-paying, high-powered job.
So here we remain in blogging kindergarten, yes? Yes and no. We, you and I, choose to participate—but we are not confined. None of us here are in control of the Xanga domain or server (as an “independent blogger” worthy of bloggerati attention would be) and thus we are all subject to the vicissitudes of the decision-makers. But many of us, nonetheless, have formed real links and relationships with one another that will prevail even if ever Xanga should fail. The bloggerati ignores us, but we continue, as a blogging community, to achieve a cultural, and in some cases, literary significance despite their haughty slight of us. And slight it is because the statistics are here: 80,000 to 100,000 members and more than a million page hits a day . Bloggerati beware: ignore such gross statistics at your own peril.
Well, unlike John, I’m not reluctant to toot my own horn. I have tooted and toyed a lot with Xanga. I have from time to time and will yet again incorporate a live mobile webcam into my blog and a realtime chat applet therein; I’ve had three-blogs-in-one (LiveJournal and Blogger subsumed under Xanga); I’ve sponsored my own (software, domain, and server) GreyMatter blog in the Xanga header; I’ve got some Xanga games going as a side entertainment; I’ve scheduled a croning agent to blog for me unattended and have already scheduled Xanga posts years into the future; and I’ve even blogged wirelessly amidst the grateful dead from a locked-up cemetery the night of a Halloween. And, God and Goddess willing, I’m just beginning. Hey, I don’t see any of the bloggerati doing the innovative things I’ve done and the many cool, creative, and innovative things so many of you are doing on your blogs on a daily basis.
So you want to know what I think? Screw the bloggerati ! We are having more fun! Oh yes, they are angling for fame and/or the revenue model to usher them into opulence. And I’ve no doubt that some of them (and by well-wishes, hopefully, John) will succeed. But we, the many each of us, but moreover, we as a community are an exciting vibrant phenom the likes of which has never before been seen…for…
We are the music-makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams;
World-losers and world-forsakers,
on whom the pale moon gleams;
Yet we are the movers and shakers,
Of the world for ever, it seems.
-- Arthur O'Shaughnessy
Comments (148)
Bravo!
Why does this sound so familiar?...phantom dreams...
HAHA
I thought the 'booze and beer' babes were a BREED, as in plural...kinda like, Hooter GirlS.
"inciteful"... LOL, was that intentional?
You've done it all!!!! Well...almost.
Time to post your ass, NFP!
~Erin_Go_Sit_And_Wait_Patiently
Ohhhh good!! Reminds me of my XangaHood post.. I cut it short this morning... I have the YaYa's in the event something goes terribly wrong.. we shall overcome!!

With the help of all your creations of course!! You need to be a YaYa man my dear friend!
blogophobic - someone who is afraid to blog.
I love your words derived from the word "blog!"
They are causing early-afternoon spasms of laughter!
sean,
Lookee! inciteful-->insightful A typo! Thanks for the close read.
Hey, it wasn't a typo slam.... I just thought it was ironic, since some of your more insightful writings have the potential to incite all kinds of mischief
sean,
Your verse is vice-filled? That wasn't a type of slam? Oh, well, hell then, I'm shifting ground again.
Screw the Blogeratti? Huh? No no no ... we must send Bianca to tempt them with her keen understanding of what they are all about ... Once they are addicted, THEN we go in for the kill.
too much too read for me right now.
P
and shutup about the rice before i hurt you!
thank god i'm not breastfeeding.
regarding your blog, to me it's always been the people who write who make a site what it is...even the most non technical sites can have fantastic content...one of the things l love about this place...the variety.
I am so out of touch. I don't understand this very well either.
I think I will go celebrate since ignorance is bliss and all that. *clink!
you know i've blogged in other places and read * ALOT* of blogs in all kinds of places. Let me tell you the good writers? Are HERE! This place the people are actually friggin interesting, I read things that take my damn breath away sometimes. So if they miss us? It's their REALLY REALLY big loss! Jealousy perhaps?!
Yes.....? What would you like to know? I'll bare it ALL for you!!
Well, literati have to have some one to look down on or they can't justify themselves. I mean, gosh, it's the same in the publishing world. There is "literary" writing and fiction for Pete's sake!
Boy, that verse brings back memories of high school choir. We sang that song.
Yeah, I know it's a poem, but there is a song called "We are the music makers". Maybe it's not called that, but that's the chorus I remember. 
hugs,
wf
If "John" thinks he's ready to move on, it's not because he's graduated but because he couldn't get it right? xanga is still pretty shakey and hardly a stepping stone to sonething bigger and better. I love it though and I love your blog!
Wow.. this was such an interesting read! I had no idea that Xanga had 80,000 to 100,000 members. Hmmm...
I'm just here to try out my writing skills ( If I have ANY) and to meet folks. And read great blogs, like this one. *schmooze*
They simply don't get it, don't they? We might not be a very close community but I for one remember over the months that I'm a member, multiple examples of outstanding blogging from xangans past and present that would be hard to better by any professional columnist. I won't name names as that would be unfair to those I would forget.
You know, notforprophet, I don't need to explain this to you. I keep encountering amazing talents on xanga who keep on entertaining me and occasionally move me to tears.
We rock, simple as that.
Some days I think I want to infiltrate the bloggerati... go to blogspot and talk politics as the Pagan Pundit... but I always get over it.
If Xanga's a sandbox, what does that make us...Ick!!
hm..fascinating...your site is so very hi-tech. hehe. very nice. oh, and, no...that wasn't a joint effort. i'm pretty sure he was talking about the little "poem" i posted under his most recent writing as a comment.. heh and i made a note of it on my site as well just to make sure no one thinks i'm incorporating other people's writing (when i do that i always give credit..hehe). well thank you for visiting. ^_^
We have the stats, but so does McDonalds. "Billions and Billions served". Does that make Mickey D's tasty?
Hmm.. Uh... no.
Nonetheless, I've scrolled around and searched high and low and the yaya is the place I diggest the most. There's the community thing, for one.
For all, really... that's the major difference. Granted, there is something to be said for the relative uniformity of the sites as well... but, that's part of the community.
I hesitate to say Xangans are less self-obsessed... Maybe I have just run into the right peeps?
You and your meta-blog blogging! I was going to throw something up yesterday (no clue what anymore) and stayed away. I can't sound like NotFor! I couldn't even do the meta-blog justice!
*sigh*
Whatever. I dig all your meta-blog blogginess!
**sigh***
i bow to your fierceness sir
Hell yea my man!!
Oh, yeah, whose the badass bloggers? Right here at Xanga. We ain't gonna STAND for no kinda Bloggerati, yo, the Blog Revolt is right here.
I'm glad I have you to keep me informed... always with your ear to the ground.
Oh dear. The Bloggeratti? As if we need any more of a gang-warfare situation in weblogging.
"The very drawback about knowing literature abundantly well is when one is about to perform own writings; one can always find and remember a verse or quote from others that are seemingly better than ones own trivial play with words.."
QUOTE (C) Tor-Eirik Bjorkli 2002
If we graduate, can we be first graders?
hear hear!!
are you the on the xangan payroll????????
you should be....
dangit... can't I just have a little online diary? dangit.....
thanks for making these points. what do they know of our suffering and pain? we are the real people, the victims of our worlds. we shall overcome, someday.
blessings.
Ok, I had to read that twice and I'm still wondering...
Yeahhh for you. Keep keepin' it real
excellent blog
Phenoms***
we are all that
yes
*
I've flirted with the idea of an independant blog, but the problem is getting traffic, and also knowing how to mess with the code to get what you want.
So xanga is easier.
But I don't like that non-xangans can't comment here.
LOl @ the Blogarati!!!
So, teacher, where's the play house?? I wanna dress up and decorate the kitchen. Ahhh the memories...
I'm just angling for a couple of comments and eprops and some lovin'.
Got any spare eprops, Mistah?
I enjoy your blogs. They're intelligent but highly amusing.
Ahhhh, come on now. You could do the Xanga thing too. You're certainly bright enough. Hell, *I* could do the Xanga thing --- but why? (easier when someone else does)
Get yo'self a little host, a little script, a little read-write-execute, and WORKOUT. Xanga's cool but, really, sugah-pie, there are many, many folks who could make their own community(ies). Not to worry about other's pride in their "babys".
Here's a toot for your horn. You could do it.
~TOOT~
John has written a lot about the blogosphere in his zine. For whatever reason, Xangans don't really participate in the blogosphere -- at least while they're on Xanga. Perhaps Xanga's strong community makes it look inwards (e.g. Xangans link primarily to other Xanga sites). On the flip side, perhaps Blogger's lack of community features makes its users more likely to link to the greater blogosphere. (LiveJournal is probably somewhere in the middle, but not very blogosphere-y either.)
Note that John doesn't really mention Blogger on Microcontent News either. He doesn't cover blogware topics for editorial integrity... He's taking a different tack than Dave Winer's Scripting.com.
I agree that the community (not the owners of Xanga) is the most important part of what makes Xanga special.
FYI, Xanga served 1,866,266 pageviews yesterday.
lol
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