May 6, 2002
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America hasn't won a war since 1945. Korean War. Vietnam War. War on Drugs. Persian Gulf War. Terrorist War I. Five wars. I believe we should and could have pressed for victory in three of these. The other two (Vietnam and War on Drugs), we had no business getting involved in. We haven't exactly lost homeland-wise, but we haven't won either. And at this pace, we're not about to break our dismal streak.
Now it's not like I like wars, mind you. I abhor them. But if you commit to battle, it must be total. Prosecuted to yours or the enemy's demise. One should never engage a war with any intention other than victory. If you pick up the sword, expect to use it. Anything less is a tradeoff of lives for purposes of political posturing. Fuck such martyrdom right to the gates of hell.
Now you fucking tell me. Remember 9-11? No I don't me the fucking news about the day, but the way that you actually fucking felt? The horror, the anger, the sense of oneness with all your fellow Americans? You felt different--transformed, energized, spiritually and socially enlivened--for a month or two afterwards, didn't you? 9-11 was supposed to *change our way of life forever*.
Well, it did. In the short run. But whereas all of us at first readily admitted the impact of the change, most of us have now slipped back into a comfortably numb socially-embraced denial thereof. Admit it. Nothing has change, has it? You dumb fucks--the one's of you who are now feeling and reifying this old myth of normalcy. Do you know what you're really feeling? The concomitant surge of an economy needing to press mindlessly onward towards its own self-glorifying growth. The greatest myth of modernity: Economy. Machine. Welcome to.
We've already lost Terrorist War I, not because we have military lost it, but because we have lost sight--in our lives and in the our news media, which many of us acquiesce into acceptance as our national consciousness--of our national resolution to commit and strive onward to victory. We have lost sight of it.
I pity those of you who upon the next trying crisis for America will slip back into the mindset of *Oh yes, this is exactly how it--I--we--felt back at 9-11!--omg! I forgot! Now where's that plastic car flag?!*
You know one of the real worths of a weblog such as Xanga? We can still go back--now--via hyperlink--to relive and revive and recommit to what we genuinely and rightfully felt and shared with each other post 9-11.
I'm feeling so drawn. Now heading back to my warblog to shed the myth of ever-renewing and amnesiac economy and to rediscover what, in those once brief shining moments, we all truly meant and intended, United, for ourselves.
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I remember renting and watching lots of romantic comedy movies right after 9-11. The whole house here was sunk in a depression.
The movies would end, and the VCR would show us what was on channel 7 at 1am, while the tape rewound.
Channel 7 was showing infomercials. It was the juiceman, or Ron Popeil selling spray-on hair color. And there it was: That's what it's all about. We sat there and stared at Ron Popeil. "Set it.. and FORGET IT!"
the war against terrorism...
it's like waging a war against locusts
or on drugs, or a war on dancing for that matter
we need to choose our wars more carefully, lest we be made to look like fools.
guess what? too late.
did you honestly expect that people wouldn't revert back to their comfortable way of life prior to 9-11? i think we shared the cynical view that it was a short term meeting with sensibility that would soon be brought to a close by the random daily events that try one's patience...i don't know if we have the capacity to change wholeheartedly...perhaps the country has degraded a bit, into a group of spineless tv-watching drones who only wish the bad things in the world would go away...
I haven't forgotten ...I still watch planes in the air, wondering if they are flying too low, if they are off "track".... I'm planning a flight this summer and already wondering if I will reach my destination...everytime I call my Mom in NY and she doesn't answer the phone, I remember how I "lost" her for days, the fear, the tears...and I still watch hours of cable news shows and read the papers, trying to stay one step ahead of what may come next...I haven't forgotten, but I do feel helpless at times....Peace, my notforprophet.
I always knew, back in my head, that after we had lost several of our boys in battle, we would soon forget why we were even there...
Things are so temporary in our American life-style. From the products we buy, to the people we live with...
Sometimes, I wish things were more like they were in the old days...I think back to my history classes when we would discuss the Great Depression and the war going on then. And how America stuck together, and pinched every penny to make it four times what it was...Women threw in their nylons to the war efforts and even worked in factories while our men fought a war that really wasn't ours...
Whatever happened to that emotion of patriotism?
Media? Our government? Life in general?
Prolly all of them...
Yeah...it stinks...but when everything we feel is often times given to us by external sources, when the hype is over..so is the importance...Much like Pet Rocks or platform shoes...
One thing I know for sure, however, is that those directly affected by what happened that day, will never forget their loss...Nor will they ever forgive this country for not following through on their promise of total retaliation...
I havent forgotten. It has changed most of the people I know. Some of us do fall into a comfortable pattern again, but I think now the pattern has changed a bit.
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I think trying to forget calamities is a natural thing. A protection against hurt. But I see what you mean even if I'm not an American.
Ummm...I thought we won "Desert Storm".
I stock my personal Alaska stores with food, water and ammo. I vote with informed purpose against those that would weaken our great American society * Such is life - on slaughterhouse planet Earth *
TewSmart,
My view: If we truly won "Desert Storm" there wouldn't be the current talk about re-invading a hostile Iraq. We didn't "win". We didn't "lose". We reached impasse.
That's a very good post Steve. I've never felt entirely patriotic nor entirely proud of our troops until 9-11. I still feel it, and I intend to continue that feeling until the day I die...
Whaddaya mean we didn't win the Gulf War??!!! I was THERE, man (twitch twitch)!! It was brutal!! (twitch) Months of weeks of days of sunless hours below decks on the carrier, man!!! Ran outta Dr. Pepper!!! HAD TO WATCH BLAZING SADDLES LIKE 60 FRIKKIN TIMES MAN!!! (twitch) IT WAS FRIKKIN (twitch) HELL, MAN!!!
happily for America, it tends to shy from declaring wars. just call'em "military interventions" or similar euphemisms. cuts the number of wars you lose...
alternatively, send assassins, back military coup d'etats, funds fascist dictatorships, assassinate democratically elected leaders, sell arms to fascist paramilitary groups, then decry them when they no longer serve US interests.
how come all of "Americas great enemies" were once great American allies? ahhh... those treacherous foreigners... one day the Taliban are fighting the evil russians, next day they're next-in-line for "America's enemy number one"...
seems to me like a certain scepticism to US foreign policy warmongering agendas is a pretty damn sane attitude.
Sangreal:
Unfortunately, in this case, we didn't call a "millitary intervention". We did that about 3 years ago going after Sadam Hussein and called it "Operation Desert Fox". (Another war/skirmish that almost no one but those affected by it remember...) Bush caled "War" against the Taliban and all terrorists. And even though we know that this is a war that can never fully be won, I think it is up to him to follow through, come hell or high water...To back down now, at least against the Taliban...well...It makes us look very fallible...
However, I don't think we are actually backing down...And I don't think that Bush has officially called off the war...I think, that they are staging a different playing ground...Just because they are moving troops back home in large amounts doesn't mean we have given up...I believe it means we are going to try a different strategy...
As for the allies/traitors concept..It's politics...It is every government's right to change it's mind on who it wants to side with. When it comes to the middle east, I think alot of them wait and see who is more willing to come to their aid...
Frankly, if I were a political leader, I'd have no problem "switching sides"...It's the only way to stay alive...*wink*
Yep, right to the heart of it.
No, ofcourse the event isn't forgotten.
But the ghood intentions and the self-reflection are.
My country is in turmoil today... papers: lofe will never be the same again......
They forgot they said it so often in the past.....
Sorry, I didn't go out and rally with the mindless sheep and wave a plastic flag..... I mourned for the deaths on 9/11..... and I had to turn away to keep from crying. I didn't look at those falling to their deaths as they realized no-one would save them as they burned alive..... where exactly is this supposed to be a show of patriotism to keep this devastating thing alive. Sorry..... I don't think the retaliation was the right answer...but time will tell.
Excellent post! A lot of thought and ideas put into it.
The nature of America is changing. Its so easy to go out and buy the store out of little flags and stick them on your car and proclaim yourself a patriot rather than to follow the current events of the country and the world unless they're showing exploding buildings and not Jerry Springer, WWF or the Soap Operas. By the way, what happened to all the flags people put on their cars untill they tattered in the wind? Probably just thrown out with the trash in the middle of the night when nobody would notice. Oh yeah, thats right the flags started showing up on coffins coming back from Afganistan.
A "war" on terrorism is won not by the military. Its won by the people. The military has effectively dealt with, and will continue to do so, identifiable elements of leadership and support for the terrorists. The people have to be willing to take on the responsibility that goes along with freedom on a daily basis. You cannot reach a "peaceful" settlement when others are intent are destroying you for your way of life. Excellent point made that if you go to war, you have to go for full victory. If you're not happy with that thought, turn the WTC site, the Pentagon, and a field in PA into memorial parks and weap for those who died, but be willing to do the same the next time it happens.
Thats just my opinion - I could be wrong JC
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