June 28, 2006
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Though far from being a scientific test, the popup Ratings module (code provided by Sean) I placed on this site a couple of days ago suggests that the only way to get Ratings due attention is by making the module visible.
# of site ratings on my site before visibility: 2
# of site ratings on my site after visibility: 6
So, in just two days my rating numbers tripled.
For the sparse traffic I get here, that 6 compares pretty well with the 18 site ratings number that TheTheologiansCafe currently has from his hidden Ratings module. He gets about 10 times the attention that I do here but has only 3 times the ratings number.
Moreover, TheTheologiansCafe last five posts have a combined 1 rating, while my last post has 3 of itself.
Again, all of this is not statistically scientific, but suggestive.
Caution: Ignore everything written below unless you want your brain to hurt. Take a shortcut for grabbing comment links and read Sean's solution to my convolutedness.
However, Sean's solution works only for comments on one's own blog. If you want to feature comments from another's blog, convolution rules.
Unrelated note: A couple of posts ago, I made a link to a specific comment by John. Do you all know how to construct such links? Here it is:
http://www.xanga.com/notforprophet/500376003/item.html?nextdate=1118297115&direction=n#1118297115
If you click on it, it takes you directly to John's comment on my post, not just the top of the comment page itself. I think this is nifty (did I just use that word?) when you want to bring attention to another's comment in the original context without forcing your readers to search through all the comments on a post.
The first number (in this case, 500376003) is the unique number (uid) assigned to the post itself on the comment page URI (Uniform Resource Identifier). If you click to comment on any post, you'll see that post's uid in the URI in your browser's address box.
The second and third numbers (in this case, 1118297115) refer to the specific comment of interest (John's, in this case) on that page. I obtained it by looking at the source code for the comment page (in most browsers, View, Source or View, Page Source), locating the specific comment, finding the number (maybe it's called a 'cid', comment id?) asscoiated with it, and then using it in the second and third number positions to create the link above.
You find the specific comment id # associated with a person's comment in the (example):
<a name="1118297115">
code that directly precedes the comment. (As a side note, the first comment on a post doesn't get a number to reference but simply reports <a name="firstcomment"> !)
I only wish there were an easier way to identify a comment's id and to constuct such links dynamically.
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this post made my brain hurt....I just wanna blog damnit.
rate your post, dangit
You can easily grab comment links from your feedback page.
If Xanga makes *any* improvement to the comment system, it needs to be threading (ie the ability to reply to a specific comment, and to display comments in that context).
Um. Yeah.
I wonder what ratings the girls who post naked pictures of themselves get.
TheTheologian... he does have a lot of traffic. Some of his topics can be thought provoking and controversial. I guess that's why reality shows are so big... controversy. I claim indifference.
See, I just knew Sean would have the answer! I just knew it!
although it should be simple enough to write a script that grabs all of those [a name="1234567"] tags to create "link to this comment" widgets in the comment by-lines
I need Tylenol now.
That's a handy tip. A link embedded in each comment perhaps? That might be handy indeed. But yours will suffice.
I'd hate though, in T's Cafe, for instance, to have to scroll through the code to find the 121st comment's link. Not that it's trouble, just a pain. I'd have to really want to link the comment.
I think that if ratings are going to be a true part of how Xanga is done - the links to rate a post or a site should be in the comments portion. Not just visible, but a part of the process. Add a comment, (maybe) forget about props, rate the post, rate NFP's site. Have the rating visible near the props/comments tally. My opinion.
Cool, don't know if I'd ever use it, but now I have an understanding of how. How long have you been doing this kind of stuff? -
Foomanchu - moving the ratings down to the comment box is something I've got in the cooker
sean - there's no comment box when comments are disabled. So where would it go then? Or are you just considering an additional option of displaying ratings in the comment box when it is there?
NFP!!!!!!! GO TELL ME WHAT KIND OF SNAKE THAT IS ON MY SITE. and yes I am screaming
I love how John responds to our concerns. I could never imagine Tom from Myspace responding to people's concerns. Maybe he does, I don't know. But I've never seen it. Nice postings. Pete.
nfp: In that case, I'd just put below the post.
nifty is as nifty does
i wonder if we could use AJAX and drag a linked comment (or comments) into a post.. that would be slick eh?
a whole comments manager UI would be a fun toy as well.
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Ok so I'm back this morning! Skipped over all the stuff making my brain snesors short out to tell you I miss the old prophet. The one who rights poetry ans tells of his adventures in Dreamland, the one who can make the hairs stand up on the back of my kneck with his sensual ways. So, whats up with you?
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Hey NFP, I made my ratings visible for 23 hours (6/28/06, 9:15am; 6/29/06; 8:15am) and have 18 ratings. Prior to that, I only had 4 ratings.
Best I can tell, the ratings have been accurate too.
What the hell are you typing about here?
Step out of the Matrix bro!
Sail on... sail on!!!
Yeah baby finally a comment from Prophet! Thanks! * I need something way stronger than BEER today!!!!!!!! Get your self over here with something and we'll have a great time tonight! LOL Trying to give you alittle bit of inspiration.
I don't care if I am rated or not. I am sure my ratings, if any, would be boring or tame. LOL By the way, I accidently rated your site as being "Explicit". LOL Yes, it wasn't intentional.
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