June 23, 2006
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Xanga Ratings and Xanga Flags are all fine and dandy (well, maybe fine but not dandy, sometimes dandy not quite fine...).
However, it's obviously easy to defeat the intent of those tags at the top of the page by adopting a custom layout such as this self-proclaimed 12 year old on Featured Content has here. Do you want to flag her as underage (Proof of Under-13 User flag)? If you're really determined, you could still send xanga form-mail, I suppose. But you'd think that Xanga could lock some code down that MUST appear on every page or have the page fail to display at all.
hrmm...EXplicit nudity. Once again no rating or flagging capability. This crap is easy to find: just use the Xanga search and some juicy conjoined terms.
Here's another loophole: A site self-rated EXplicit which can't be accessed by self-declared minors or anyone else not willing to provide proof of age eligibility. However, this entry on the site is viewable by minors since the entry isn't self-rated at all. So a minor can't get to the portal page (www.xanga.com/x_a_n_t_h) but could, like I did, run across a particular entry that's indexed by and encountered in Xanga's own site search.
Yet another way to defeat the ratings system: Load so much EXplicit porn on your site page that it never does get finished loading and anyone trying to rate the site (i.e, the Wisdom of the Masses) has their browser hang forever.
Another concern is that even though a self-rating of EXplicit such as x_a_n_t_h has blocks frontal unqualified access to the weblog, the photoblog http://photo.xanga.com/x_a_n_t_h remains wide open. Granted, there are no pics there is this particular instance. But Xanga is providing a 'Site Rating' of EX that doesn't cover potentially the most graphically EXplicit outlet on the site. Perhaps that's even why there are no pics there: x_a_n_t_h may realize the coverage is incomplete and is conscientious enough to avoid an indiscretion.
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My understanding is that even if my posts (or overall site) are rated "D" or "EX," underage subscribers can still read my entries if they get instant updates or daily digest subscriptions by email. Defeats Ratings at the very least. Or am I mistaken?
Sadly, they have made more trouble than actual helped.
But, maybe someday they will perfect it where it will be a good system.
I acutally came across the flagging problem a while back and tried to leave a question for john....to no avail....
oh well.....
Wow -
Hmmm... now I'm really failing to see the point of the ratings, unless it's meant to be a legal failsafe. "Hey, the blog writer rated his own site as being explicit! We can't help it if your twelve-year-old kid read it anyway!" etc.
I just don't get all these new Xanga features... but it's interesting that I only seem to understand them is reading here. Go fig.
Since the moment that "flags" was announced on John's site, people have been pointing out, via comments, that they are easily bypassed ... meaning, John (and crew)have been aware of it for weeks. If you look back through his posts, I don't doubt that you'd find close to 100 comments addressing it.
Eww
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John really appreciates my point of view and has actively sought my advice on numerous occasions. I happen to believe that when he reads this that he will value what I have to express. I have read your comments on his posts regarding such matters as this and am aware that you and others have expressed other means of bypassing "flags". Of course, I'm not just talking about flags here but ratings also. And the fact that "people have been pointing out" other things has no bearing on this post and my intent to bring this issue to greater awareness. Besides, it's my belief that some of issues I raise here have not been mentioned anywhere else before.
problem is. a lot of people are using layouts from before flagging. &&don't know how to add in a link to flagging [assuming they wanted to].
i'm afraid i'm guilty of that one myself. it's not intentional. i just. haven't had the time.
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Interesting. The more web they weave the more entangled they become.
BTW, the perv guy's site DID finish loading. LMAO.
Peace.
Steve, I am a little perplexed by your reply to my comment.
I wasn't insinuating that John doesn't care about your point of view. You have made it very clear, again and again, that you've communicated with him outside of Xanga (as I have).
I was only saying that many others share your concerns (with bypassing flags) and that it is something they are certainly addressing.
Regarding: I have read your comments on his posts regarding such matters as this and am aware that you and others have expressed other means of bypassing "flags".
I, personally, have not commented anywhere about bypassing flags, at least not that I can recall. My previous comment, here, is my only reference to this issue.
I didn't intend to offend you. I didn't come here out of spite or with malice. I was only saying that many share your concern because, based on your comment at John's, it wasn't apparent that you knew.
Regarding this: Besides, it's my belief that some of issues I raise here have not been mentioned anywhere else before.
I also did NOT say that all your issues presented here had been covered by others. I did not think that and it is not in my above comment.
I guess that I am just quite startled by your reaction to well-meant and supportive comment. If I somehow offended you, I am sorry. If I am not welcome to come by, you should let me know.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by ...
"people have been pointing out" other things has no bearing on this post and my intent to bring this issue to greater awareness
I know that I left a comment or two on John's posts about the fact that certain people (obviously not referring to you) keep leaving comments again and again and again about issues that have nothing with his post. (Such as the stupid references to their "free speech" being impeded upon or others that complain about something like [I'm making up an example here] "I can't figure out how to write a post".)
Sorry to leave another comment, but I am completely confounded by the above reference that you made. ?!
Well, actually, I'm confounded by your entire response. *insert googly-eyed confused emoticon*
hey guys! thought i'd respond to a bunch of your comments all at once:
* steve, great good point about hidden links. we're definitely going to pull together a way to flag or rate sites that have hidden the ratings/flag links.
* also, great catch on the entry being viewable despite the site being rated EX - first i've heard of it. that sounds like a bug - i've reported it to our ratings team!
* steve, we're definitely going to extend ratings checks to photos and profiles.
* jodi, you're definitely right about subscriptions (both web-based and email-based) needing a ratings filter. as soon as we get ratings in a solid place overall, we will add the ratings filter to subs.
* there are a few other places besides subscriptions where we'd like to add ratings support (e.g. commenting, footprints)... if you have any other ideas, please let us know! we are proceeding very slowly here, so we can take into account feedback from the community.
* ang, ratings is definitely not meant as a legal failsafe. it's a genuine attempt to make xanga safer... while preserving the right of us older folk to say whatever we want.
thanks to everyone for your feedback! much, much appreciated...
I wonder how many people clicked the explicit nudity link in this post. Because I sure didn't. ;P
If xanga would wrap all of these essential controls like ratings and flags in a top-of-page toolbar, served in a frame from a different subdomain, people wouldn't be able to hide them.
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