February 5, 2005
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The Joy of Fishes
by Chuang Tzu (250 B.C.)
Chuang Tzu and Hui Tzu
Were crossing Hao river
By the dam.
Chuang said:
"See how free
The fishes leap and dart:
That is their happiness,"
Hui replied:
"Since you are not a fish
How do you know
What makes fishes happy?"
Chuang said:
"Since you are not I
How can you possibly know
That I do not know
What makes fishes happy?"
Hui argued:
"If I, not being you,
Cannot know what you know
It follows that you
Not being a fish
Cannot know what they know."
Chuang said:
"Wait a minute!
Let us get back
To the orginal question.
What you asked me was
'How do you know
What makes fishes happy?'
From the terms of your question
You evidently know I know
What makes fishes happy.
"I know the joy of fishes
In the river
Through my own joy, as I go walking
Along the same river."
Translation by Thomas Merton The Way of Chuang Tzu, New Directions Books, 1965
*note: Thomas Merton was a Trappist monk and mystic. I've read quite a bit of his work-over 70 books. While studying Chinese and embracing Taosit precepts in my 20s, I understood his joy in doing the same.
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I've always wished, and to this day still do, that I could speak and read 'Chinese'.
What a unique and interesting post it'll probably it'll be stuck in my head most of the day...
"One fish said to another fish..."
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his Joy?"
Thomas Merton ... I loved reading his works too. Which is your favorite of his?
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I've come across the name several times in my own reading, but I have never read any of his work directly (yet).
I have one of Merton's books.
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