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The hardcore graphic pornography that's infecting Xanga is disgusting. Just this, for an example: xCharmed_Lifex
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Yep, it all violates Xanga's Terms of Use. Are they doing anything about it? My guess is that they (John, et. al.) view it already as uncontrollably out of hand and that they find themselves unable, due to lack of resources (i.e., manpower), to proactively shutdown these sites. They, undoubtedly, feel a need to pick their battles and probably reserve their efforts to respond to complaints where they feel others have been genuinely stalked, harassed, harmed, or threatened.
But it's just a matter or time, if not already, before hardcore child porn follows on the heals of this crap. Especially if the excreta, as typified above, is allowed to pose mainstream and boast of Featured Content while pandering blogrings.
So I propose these measures for the Xanga Powers that be (I would call them xangods, a term I invented, but John is not enamored of the term):
1) Take me on as a volunteer to screen at least Featured Content for the really hard core stuff. Not a tasteful boob here. Or a cute ass there. I mean really raunchy explicit sex-act graphica that lures perverts readily onwards and is at the heart of the internet's billion dollar pornography industry. That is, from the perspective of hyper-lewd, the "good stuff" that you'd have to pay for on most other pornography sites. (yes, 'other' has become, sadfully. a necessary descriptor). I'll submit discreet daily reports with evidence to Xanga Abuse of what I feel steps beyond bounds. Then let Xanga decide.
2) Make a rule (and enforce it) to ban anyone who clearly depicts genitalia as a profile pic. I'm talking about penises, balls, clits, pussies, and asshole shots.. After all, these pics can show up on highly public pages like Featured Content and Newly Updated. That's my territory, too, and I'm offended by that vulgarity and demand its banishment.
3) Steer clear of shutting down blogrings altogether unless the ringleader just happens to warrant removal and then it's unavoidable. Pornographic verbal descriptions, stories, etc.? Don't even go there. That is, hands off. Otherwise, I'm out of here, too.
What do you all think?
(And, yes, I'm going to invite John to read this post.)
update: John has already responded in the comment area.
Comments (236)
i'd wager that you'd rather now know.
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~shudders~...
I STILL remember the day I 'clicked' on the random site link & pulled up a site with an 'asshole' shot!
I've noticed this... I don't mind it, I just don't go there... but it concerns me where it will lead.
Personally, I like your idea... but for some reason I doubt the general xangan population will. Maybe I'm wrong.
(now = not)
I'll vote for you.
Although my objection is only at pictures - I used to enjoy writing the "erotica" stuff, plus it's good practice for adults and teenagers alike to read...
Part of the reason I don't hit that Random site button nowadays is that I once got a full-screen photo of some blogger's cock. (Shudders at memory of having it stuck in my face... if you understand what I mean.) (Ew.)
But yes, I'm all for censorship in moderation. Freedom of speech ? Bollocks. Talk all you want but don't throw porn pics around - it's bad for the ozone layer (probably).
I've stumbled into some of the most disgusting sites from featured content...and I don't mean artistic, or even mildly disturbing...I mean NASTY, hardcore, sick and gross stuff. I report the worst, because it IS on featured content...and anyone who chooses to look at this entire site as a visitor can go and view...that's children, ect. Some of the sites have been taken off...some have not. But I agree...there should BE some guidelines and some way to get the really sick things off of featured content at least.
i couldn't agree more! we just had an internal meeting about this, and are moving to change featured content so that it doesn't feature pornographic sites. we would love your help with identifying such sites...
as for text-based erotica, we've never shut down sites for writing erotica. but we're working on a rating system that will flag such sites and give visitors a warning before viewing. we're actually writing up that system now, and would love to bounce it off of you before we begin programming.
thanks for your thoughts here. these porn pics have been increasing lately, and it's been really bothering us. as you guessed, it's been an issue of manpower...
Ha!...
The Gods heard ya, Boo...
And they need your assistance...
Yes, yes...we need to remove this trash. My kids are here! While they are all old enough to make their own decisions (teens)--lets not make it any easier.
the props just aren't big enough.
Good, I'm glad John agrees.
You rock, NFP.
checking your stalk...i mean SITE meter to catch me lurking, eh? i MOSTLY agree with you on this topic.
and how is your daughter doing? send her good wishes from me...
take care.
thanks for warning
See, you really can make a difference... being a relic ( I have unofficially added myself to that list since I have been here going on 4 years..not as long as you but a while) I think it is appalling of some of the names that they are being allowed to sign up under and I thought this too was a point of contention... I have seen such vulgar names that I cannot imagine a child of ANY age even at 13 reading it.... and there it is... right on the FRONT page of xanga for everyone to see....
I am glad that the xanga-powers-that-be are trying to do something about it... I am sure there are several great people like you they can use to help in curbing this smut, and be as fair about it as need be... I think that is a great idea!!!
have a great day!!!
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I'll volunteer to weed out politically and spiritually repugnant sites.
I agree with foomanchu, the props just aren't big enough.
I knew there were a few xanga sites like that out there, but I really thought they were only "a few." I had no clue how many there were.
I find myself on the horns of a dilemma here. Two of the people I read - and the people I read, connect to the people you read and so on, inside Xanga there are 'circles', not as close as cliques, but where we all recognise most of the names of those who comment on a lot of the blogs we go to - and therefore possibly people you read to are decent individuals who post porn. One is a teacher of young adolescents and posts extreme B&D pics, although the site is protected now, the other is a lady who has a prediliction for married men (and now strangers) and likes to write what they do together in extreme detail. These are quite genuine blogs, they have no commercial links. Yet both would fall foul of what you propose I think.
Maybe if there was a categorical list of what was/wasn't acceptable (and I am happy to agree with what you propose) and the blogs falling under the porn side would have to be protected and only protected, then it would be ok. I think any and all blogs whether associated with porn or not that are primarily there to advertise or lure ppl to another commercial site, should be closed down or pay money up front, same as Xanga (and now Bubblicious?) does.
My kid is 13, I caught him surfing porn too many times and put the computers (now altogether in the study so I can see what is going on) on passwords. Its not that I really mind him seeing naked chicks and things, its that the more outre, the more fetishistic, even fantasy role playing the porn, the more he is likely to misinterpret it.
When you are a child and you play cowboys and indians in front of a toddler, the toddler will cry, he doesn't understand, it seems horrid to tie people up and threaten them and kill them (before going home to tea). The same with my child, he isn't old enough to understand that most of us really don't go around doing strangers, raping their teacher or anything else, its just a grown up game. I want to protect him from that.
Thank you for your initiative.
RYC, even the gays are married in Mass.
Good for you! Good for John and good for Xanga! Glad they are taking your advise and I vote for you to take on the nasties. I know you are wise enough to do this intelligently and without prejudice
Good for you!
I can't move away either but if I ever win the lottery I'll sponsor your move and then I'm off to the Carribean.
P.S.: That porn site above is disgusting!
I wondered if anyone was doing anything about this! I like what I am hearing about the proposed solutions.
Censorship at its best! Good job!!!
Thank you for addressing this. I recently emailed someone in regards to their post, requesting that they consider to make their more explicit entries (I'm talking about pictures here) protected. This person responded with, "my site isn't as hard core as other sites," and expressed a desire to keep getting new subscribers. I have difficulty stomaching this because if I have particularly offensive or sensitive material, I always make it protected to respect the opinions and rights of others to surf the internet without feeling violated. I'm all for free speech, but there should be a warning or some sort of notice that allows the parent or other discriminatory reader a choice, at least.
good show, cut it off before it takes over!
Thinking that these nasties need to be moved to an alter xanga.
What I like about you, NFP, is that not only did you call out the problem, you offered to make yourself a big part of the solution. That's classy as fuck.
I don't know. I think people should be able to post whatever they want, but they're doing it thru Xanga, so they have to follow the rules. As long as it doesn't start crossing over into censorship (which I know you don't condone) I'm down for it.
yikes...i haven't come across any porno sites in my xanga travels, but i guess i'm in what's left of a dwindling virginal minority...
way to take on the issue, though...hopefully there will be a rational way to be able to dodge this content if you so desire...
Well, I am really out of touch... no pun intended.
And gratefully so. I don't really have that much time to check out featured content anymore. After reading this entry, I'm glad I don't. I'm also glad the powers that be have decided to do something about it.
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Nikko91 sent me over this way today... I'm all for regulating that kind of thing. Is nowhere safe? Ugh.
its damn stupid..
thank you very much
this is an issue that has needed to be adressed
i like to browse featured content to see what the world is interested in and i don't want to see porn as part of that
What bothers me the most about it is that of the sites I've stumbled across that are like that one you've mentioned, it seems like all of the authors are extremely YOUNG. I'm not sure which sites I find more offensive, these with the pornographic images, or the pro-ana ones (which Im not proposing be shut down, I just find them incredibly disturbing).
i feel sites like that are degrading towards woman and need to be kicked out on top of the fact if they want to be public go to adult friend finders and advertise for children read these sites--i'm 101% with you hun--bb JS
well I totally think the pics have no place on xanga this is far from the first time I have ran into them. I have seen pics on sites of bloggers that are/were actually well known in groups. I am 100% against censorship it sucks and takes away my right to view or read what I choose. I agree these sites DO NOT belong in the featured area. But unless policy states these sites are not permitted I also do not believe they should be removed. And is it fair to grandfather in a policy? Exactly how do you intend to determine what is and is not art? Oh well I'll write a blog on it tonight and give more of my thoughts. John you read this take into consideration that there are more readers out here then just nfp and if you are going to set up a volunteer program it might need to be offered to all ..... I do put my money into this also.
Hey man!
Great idea, a good initiative. Though I'm a big proponent of free speech, sometimes people really do take it too far. Don't get me wrong, I'm an adult and I do love my porn from time to time, but the idea of kids seeing it (especially hardcore stuff) is pretty wrong.
Here's an idea how to fix it: You have John - or whoever gets to do the fun job
- create an age filter, something that automatically scans the the connecting blogger's age and if it's not... say 18 and above, then they get redirected to some sort of page that warns them of extreme graphic content... or to a whole other site directly. Have the Xanga guys change it so that the 'Age' part of the xanga gets locked down (it only changes once a year) and put on a counter or something so that the name changes automatically. This makes it harder for young kids to change their ages to skip the filter. At least by installing something like that, you're going to limit the number of kids that get to see it... However, I'm sure you must realize by now that no matter how hard you work on this, if some kid wants to see two people having sex bad enough... they'll find a way.
Good luck and Cheers!
Brandon
If they make you blush, I think I'd just as soon avoid those places.
Sounds rancid. Fortunately i have not stumbled across the mentioned nastiness but certainly sounds like something needs to be done about it. Thanks for the comment on my xanga btw, twas so true.
savonddujour sent me this way (there is a porn discussion on my site as well, but in a different direction.) I am very pleased to see that John agrees, and I am all for a rating system!!!! and getting the stuff off FC. Hats off to you, sir. Good discussion.
one I noticed always pops up on featured is venus_observer I clicked once and got an eyeful, now I only click on folks who read people I know and comment in a humane way...like you : )
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Kool link....
I think I saw a pecker bigger than gudkarma's in there...
Yes..... xanga should be cleaned up a little and yes the resources are slim and yes it's good of you to offer... and honour your wish to help...
Good luck man.... Xanga will only get bigger and better perhaps...
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